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How Stinchcombe lost the Tyndale Monument

View of the Tyndale Monument on Nibley Knoll looking toward Drakestone Point Stinchcombe
View of the Tyndale Monument on Nibley Knoll looking toward Drakestone Point Stinchcombe

Monumental Loss

As most people know, the Tyndale monument stands on Nibley Knoll, above the village of North Nibley. You can read about William Tyndale and the Tyndale family in earlier articles on this website.

It is a little-known fact that Stinchcombe Hill was the preferred location for the monument at one stage. This article draws on contemporary newspapers to tell how our local beauty spot came to miss out on this honour. The various locations mentioned are indicated on the map below.

Map showing locations mentioned in the article

Monumental Rivalry

The original idea, conceived around 1860, seems to have been for a monument in North Nibley. A Committee was set up, Lord Fitzhardinge offered a site on Nibley Knoll and fundraising began.

Everything might have reached a speedy conclusion except that some subscribers began to promote Stinchcombe Hill as a rival site. They included some big names like the 3rd Earl of Ducie and the Reverend Sir George Prevost. The latter offered an elevated location about 300 yards north of the Drakestone as an alternative location. Lord Fitzhardinge continued to favour Nibley Knoll.

Long letters written under pseudonyms such as “Alpha” and “Vallicola” appeared in the local press arguing the advantages and disadvantages of each site. Stinchcombe Hill was accepted as being higher and more prominent, however, some thought this necessitated a larger, more expensive monument. Others considered that the Drakestone was the obvious location on Stinchcombe Hill and were not impressed with the proposed site. The proximity of the Stinchcombe Hill rifle range was another disadvantage in terms of public safety. On the matter of access, some felt that Nibley Knoll was more convenient as a decent road came quite close. Others considered that the long, narrow road onto Stinchcombe Hill was preferrable to having to walk the last stretch onto Nibley Knoll.

Whether North Nibley or Stinchcombe had the stronger claim to be the birthplace of William Tyndale was an important consideration for many – as an example see the letter of Joseph Witts below. At least he was brave enough to use his real name! The birthplace question is a matter still unresolved to this day but is outside the remit of this short article.

Joseph Witts' letter to the Daily Post 1860

On 17th December 1860, the Committee met in Dursley. They resolved that Stinchcombe Hill was the preferred site, for the reasons set out in the newspaper item below. As is the way of these things that did not end the arguments!

Newspaper cutting December 1860 about Committee's decision in favour of Stinchcombe Hill

In February 1861, the Committee had a further meeting at the Town Hall in Dursley and yet again decided in favour of Stinchcombe Hill, as reported in the Stroud Journal. One would have thought that was pretty conclusive, but there is another twist in the tale.

Monumental Ambition

As well as being a peer, the 3rd Earl of Ducie was Captain of the Yeomen of the Guard and Lord Lieutenant of Gloucestershire. A few years earlier he had had Tortworth Court built for him, designed by the architect eventually to be responsible for the monument.

Unfortunately, Ducie’s intial ideas for the Tyndale monument were grandiose to say the least. Even in the 21st century they would probably be considered over-ambitious. He wanted an obelisk topped by a parabolic mirror that would reflect the sun’s rays far and wide. His concept, sub-titled “a curious proposal” was reported in many newspapers in Britain and abroad. The excerpt below comes from the Falkirk Herald of December 27th, 1860.


– Earl Ducie proposes that the column to be erected to the memory of Tyndale should be surmounted by a parabolic reflector or mirror of some kind which might be so constructed as to reflect the sun’s rays through a large angle, and be visible at a great distance, across the Severn, and up and down the line of the Midland Railway. “This reflector would” it is said “have a beautiful effect during many hours of the morning and evening in summer, and throughout the whole period of sunshine on a winter’s day, and would strikingly illustrate the great event of Tyndale’s life which it is proposed to commemorate.” – Builder

Less than Monumental Fundraising

Fundraising was hampered by the disagreements about the site of the monument. By December 1861, as reported in this cutting from the Morning Post, only £500 had been received in subscriptions. This was nothing like enough to execute the Earl of Ducie’s groundbreaking scheme. A mail drop to every parish and congregation in the county had a very poor response. As mentioned below, there was a real risk of the project being downsized to a drinking fountain!

Newspaper article Dec 1861 Tyndale monument plans in trouble

Monumental Effort

The fading prospect of having any sort of monument truly worthy of William Tyndale seems to have focussed minds. The Committee made its final decision on 10th January 1862, as reported in the following excerpt from the Bristol Times. The North Nibley faction had won the day, mainly because the Stinchcombe Hill scheme was simply too expensive. The Tyndale Monument was to be built on Nibley Knoll, as originally proposed.

To the Editor of the Bristol Times and Felix Farley’s Journal, Sir, – We desire to thank you for having opened the columns of your journal on several occasions to ourselves and others advocating the erection of some suitable memorial to Wm. Tyndale. We now wish to call attention to the definite resolution passed at a meeting of the committee held in Wotton-under-edge, on the 10th Inst. That resolution determines Nibley Knoll (the site originally offered to the committee by Lord Fitzhardinge) as that which under all the circumstances is the best. The height and magnitude of Stinchcombe Hill, admirably suited as it is no doubt is for such an object, would have necessitated a proportionate erection, in order that an effect might be produced throughout the surrounding vale and district. Nor do the contributions already placed at the disposal of the committee warrant them in thinking that the very large sum which so lofty a shaft would cost, could be readily raised. Added to this, Stinchcombe having been set apart as a rifle shooting ground, free access to the memorial must have been refused to the public on many days.

With the site at last finalised and seemingly sufficient funds raised for this more modest project, the foundation stone was laid by Lord Berkeley on 29th May 1863.

Monumental Catastrophe

Alas, just a few months later, various newspapers reported serious problems with the partly built structure. The cutting below comes from the Cardiff Gazette of 23rd October 1863. It sounds as though a few corners had been cut to accomplish the project with the funds available.

Newspaper cutting from Cardiff Gazette about structural problems

Only one day after readers in Cardiff learnt of the structural issues, the Stroud Journal carried the short item below reporting that that the unfinished monument had indeed collapsed.


Newspaper item reporting the collapse of the Tyndale monument October 1863

Monumental rebuild

By July 1864, “Agricola” was writing to the Daily Post criticising a clergyman who had said the project should never have been started. He suggested that there should be a fresh appeal for subscriptions. Although not much reported in the press, this is what must have happened and with considerable success.

The Gloucester Chronicle noted in March 1865 that the Committee had awarded a contract to Messrs. Whitfield builders of Wotton-under-Edge for the construction of the monument. The architect was Samuel Sanders Teulon, who had designed Tortworth Court for the Earl of Ducie and many parish churches, including several in Gloucestershire. His design for the monument has been described as the synthesis of an obelisk with a Venetian campanile. The identities of the architect and builder for the ill-fated first attempt are not known.

In July 1865 a new foundation stone was laid and reconstruction continued apace, as this cutting from the Bath Chronicle reveals. This time the stone was taken from the Hampton quarry near Stroud. Presumably there were other changes in the design and construction methods but the newspapers did not interest themselves in such matters.

Item in Bath Chronicle July 1865 saying reconstruction beginning

The Opening

The inauguration of the monument was on 6th November 1866, with the ceremony performed by our old friend the Earl of Ducie. There was a procession from the White Hart up the steep hill to the monument, with everyone getting in each other’s way. The Wotton-under-Edge Oddfellows in their colourful regalia were singled out for mention. The Oddfellows were one of the earliest fraternal societies and had lodges all over the country. Possibly they had been active in raising funds for the monument?

The press reported the ceremony and speeches in great detail, along with discussion of Tyndale’s life and where exactly in North Nibley he was supposed to have been born. Those who believed him to have been born elsewhere had to grin and bear it.

The cost of the monument was stated to be £1,550, which corresponds to about £218,000 in 2022, according to one online calculator. The funds were still £300 short on the day of the inauguration. The newspaper descriptions mention that four sculptures representing different stages of Tyndale’s life were to be added at the cardinals (corners?). These do not appear to be present, possibly due to the shortfall in subscriptions.

Sketch of the Tyndale Monument

Not quite the end of the story

Photograph of an old brick base at Lanterns
Old brick base at Lanterns on Stinchcombe Hill, photographed with the kind permission of Mr & Mrs Sumners

An interesting footnote to this article concerns the base pictured above, which stands within the garden of Lanterns, a private house near the south-west corner of Stinchcombe Hill golf course. Part of the present day house was once a ballroom built for the Purnells of Stancombe Park. There are also references to a pavilion, which may have been a separate structure.

Lanterns has been owned for some 60 years by Mr and Mrs Sumners. They were informed by David Evans, a well-known local historian and former teacher at Rednock School, that the base was an abandoned attempt at building a monument to Tyndale. Apparently the ground conditions proved to be unsuitable. So convinced was Mr Evans that he brought pupils to view it as part of their history lesson.

Whatever evidence he had for his beliefs, we have been unable to rediscover it. Sadly, Mr Evans’ state of health makes it impossible to ask him directly. He may have been right, although the location would not be ideal if the objective was visibility. The base is much smaller than that of the eventual monument built on Nibley Knoll, suggesting that a lower structure was intended.

Could there be other explanations for these remains – part of a larger building, the base of another monument or folly, a bandstand, something to do with the previous use of this land as a deer park? There is definitely scope for more research.


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